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Nothing needs to be said... Ford, Chrysler and GM's contributions after 9/11

An interesting commentary...You might find this of interest:

'CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington.

The findings are as follows.....

1. Ford- $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number plus 10 Excursions to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response team services and office
space to displaced government employees.

2. GM- $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number and a fleet of vans, suv's, and trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler- $10 million to support of the children and victims of the Sept. 11 attack.

4. Harley Davidson motorcycles- $1 million and 30 new motorcycles to the
New York Police Dept.

5. Volkswagen-Employees and management created a Sept 11 Foundation,
funded initial with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai- $300,000 to the American Red Cross.


7. Audi-Nothing..

8. BMW-Nothing.

9. Daewoo- Nothing.

10. Fiat-Nothing.

11. Honda- Nothing despite boasting of second best sales month ever in
August 2001

12. Isuzu- Nothing.

13. Mitsubishi-Nothing.

14. Nissan-Nothing.

15. Porsche-Nothing. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru- Nothing.


17. Suzuki- Nothing.

18. Toyota-Nothing
despite claims of high sales in July and August 2001.
Condolences posted on the website

Whenever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and / or American based company. Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies contributed nothing at all to the citizens of the United States ... It's OK for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently not acceptable to return some in a time of crisis. I believe we should not forget things like this when the Government bails out AIG to the tune of $157 billion and spent over $1 million in company retreats, this year alone.        

Ill keep this short cause the initial post was so long.Im not necessarily for a bailout of the big 3,Im going to investigate thier reasoning for not wanting to go that route and mat post on it later. I thought this was very telling and I believe that not only in cars,we need to buy American when ever possible.At no time in history has it been this important that we do so.
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mpvan read my blog
Dec 3, 2008 | 2:40 PM

Hardly an incentive to buy an American Car.

The above mentioned social issues are for the gov't to provide for it's people.

How about getting FEMA to work efficiently.

"Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" said Bush as Katrina hit and people languished in N.O.

An new American car for me will not trickle down into well being for the guy under the bridge.

DogJ read my blog
Dec 3, 2008 | 3:10 PM

DaimlerChrsyler: $10 million.

Ford: $1 million, not $10.

GM: $1 million, not $10.

Honda: $1.5 million to the Untied Way of New York

Nissan: $1 million to the American Red Cross and Twin Towers Fund.

Subaru: $1 million to American Red Cross, Salvation Army & others.

Toyota: $1 million to the American Red Cross

Source: Snoops.com

wood-cutter read my blog view my photos
Dec 3, 2008 | 3:11 PM

Why didnt peole hit by the SAME hurricane in Mississippi "languish"? Could it be a better prepared state government? Why didnt they require the aid that Louisianna did?Why did busses set empty in N.O? It wasnt all Bushs fault!

So you would have told them to keep thier assistance? Again-get real!

Jordan read my blog
Dec 3, 2008 | 3:40 PM

DogJ,

Not challenging the accuracy of your information, but would like to point that when you give money to the Red Cross, United Way, Salvation Army, and others, unless you specifically designate where that money is to, it may not get there. That was the problem I had right after 9-11. I would not give to any of the mainstream charities because I could not be sure where my contribution was actually going. I did give to law enforcement organizations that had set up special funds for 9-11 victims. If fact, I think I remember there being some kind of investigative report centering on the Red Cross and where some that 9-11 money went.

Of course those who contributed thought they were doing the right thing and that the money would go to the right place. So they’re not at fault.

wood-cutter read my blog view my photos
Dec 3, 2008 | 4:16 PM

Dogj is correct. I recieved this by e-mail today and should have doublechecked....I didnt. I checked snopes.com and it has been thoroughly debunked. My appologies.

DogJ read my blog
Dec 3, 2008 | 4:18 PM

I can agree with that analysis.
It is exactly why I give minimally to United Way. Although they claim you can "designate" organizations within UW, I prefer giving directly to the organizations I want to receive MY money.
Of course, you also have to remember that after 9-11 we were initially requested to give to these organizations to avoid fraudulent orgaizations. Valid organizations like the Firefighters 9-11 Memorial Fund didn't get set up and produce a mission statement for months.

Just wanted to show that many foreigners in fact did give substantially after 9-11.

JewwellsP read my blog view my photos
Dec 3, 2008 | 4:57 PM

Glad ya'll looked at snopes! Sounded pretty true.
When it comes to donation's though.
If you draw a line (no deduction straight from your paycheck)through the UW card at my old work. No raise that year, 2 years in a row & you would be stuck in the same postion until you left company.
I have spoken to many folks who tell me they have had this done to them at their place of work too. All done for United Way.

Lineup read my blog
Dec 3, 2008 | 11:18 PM

How about buying a GM, Ford or Chrysler product simply to support your fellow Americans and ensure they are able to keep their homes and feed their families.

Why is it so hard to understand what will happen if we continue to lose industries to foreign countries. You can no longer buy an American made electronic item.

Perhaps those of you who believe the products by other countries are superior, should leave the USA and live in Japan or Korea.

We are Americans and should support our country and each other. The US is losing our super power status because Americans are becoming anti-American!

DogJ read my blog
Dec 4, 2008 | 9:38 AM

Lineup,
Fair and accurate observation.
But why should I support a fellow Americans that is making 180% of the U.S. median income?
Accordingly, they should be supporting me.
And perhaps, just perhaps, this income discrepancy is why so many jobs have left our country... it's called pricing yourself out of the market; Finance 101.

mnaines read my blog view my photos
Dec 5, 2008 | 12:05 PM

DogJ, it could also be due to the fact that Americans aren't willing to work for as cheap as workers in places like Korea, for example. $130k per year for UAW workers at GM, Ford, and Chrysler vs only $30k per year for workers at Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and those others or $10k per year for workers in Korea.

mnaines read my blog view my photos
Dec 5, 2008 | 12:06 PM

Americans are just as much at fault for this mess as the automakers are, because Americans don't want to work for $30,000 doing hard labor.

mnaines read my blog view my photos
Dec 5, 2008 | 2:19 PM

I have always held a firm belief that people should only be paid for how much they work and how difficult the work is. If its something a high-school drop-out fresh off the street can do, then you, as a college-educated adult, should not be allowed to demand more than what the high school drop-out would be paid to do the same work.

mnaines read my blog view my photos
Dec 5, 2008 | 2:26 PM

This idea is simple: If the teenager will get paid $8/hour to do nothing more than screw a bolt into a nut on a car assembly line, and the adult is NOT able to demand more than that, then that would mean that the job will most likely go to the teenager, thereby opening up the position for minorities like teenagers or foreigners to work there. The solution to what the adults should be doing is simple: Companies should hire those who can do said work...If that means hiring a middle-age 50-something man bordering on retirement, or hiring some teenager right out of high school, then don't argue with that; just hire the people and stop complaining. Message to the corporations: If you're so worried about saving money, don't pay someone what they want to be paid - pay them for how much they work; no work no pay. The harder they work, the more they get paid. Simple as that.

mnaines read my blog view my photos
Dec 5, 2008 | 2:29 PM

Unskilled workers like foreigners and teenagers should be given an equal chance just like adults are. It doesn't take a college education or even a high school diploma to know how to screw a nut into a bolt on a vehicle assembly line, so why hire people and pay them $130,000 per year to do the same work some high-school teenager fresh off the street can do for $8/hour?

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