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Drunk Driving: An Easy Solution

Nov 20, 2008 | 1:19 PM
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Let's make sense of this for a moment. If you drive drunk, you lose your license for some time making it 'more difficult' to drive a car. Is driving the car really the problem? When we keep people from driving their car, we keep them from working which leads to a lot of free time to ... drink and some may lose their job making it possible for them to collect benefits provided by the govt. In other words, we punish the driver in order to 'reward' them later.

My solution...take their license and ID and issue them another one that does not permit them to buy alcohol. Make it difficult for the drunk to get a hold of alcohol; which is the problem we should be focusing on. Treat DUI offenders like teenagers. If anyone is caught buying for or selling alcohol to a covicted drunk driver during their probationary period should suffer HUGE fines.

Does this make sense to everyone else?

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Nov 20, 2008 | 2:05 PM

No it doesn't, and here's why. We never get to the root cause of why some people drink to excess much less feel that they can drive while drunk. If we treat the cause instead of the symptoms we may be able to get somewhere.

scooterwilliams

Nov 20, 2008 | 5:26 PM

Some people have a chemical imbalance. Keith Whitley country singer died from alcohol poisoning. Anything that contained alcohol he consumed, including mouth wash. This came from his wife country singer Lorrie Morgan in an in depth interview.

There a many reasons or causes why people drink. I drank because I like beer After having a heart attack and 12 medications later no more beer. However, I am allowed a small glass of red wine sparingly.

Tell some one who is an alcoholic that they are and they will laugh in your face.

I learned to slow down on drinking when I worked in a bar. I was always taught that you didn't drink on the job. If I did it was after bar closing time. Sometimes a surprise after hours would take place. YAHOOOOOOOOOO.

The most importan thing now that I look back on some of my drinking days is. I AM VERY LUCKING THAT I NEVER GOT A DWI AND THAT I NEVER KILLED ANYONE. I ONLY DAMAGED MY OWN BODY. The price one pays for having one HELL of a good time. Do it over again? You bet your sweet cheeks I would.

KenOfAZ

Nov 20, 2008 | 9:50 PM

If there was a mandatory death penalty for a second DUI, there would be very few second offenders. And there would be zero third offenders.

scooterwilliams

Nov 20, 2008 | 9:59 PM

If they made all drunk drivers (including illegals) go directly to jail do not collect 200 dollars. Go for rehab the first time, not the second time.

I have a friend who got caught on his 2nd dui and slapped his butt in jail for like 6 months. He had to pay for all his re-hab etc.

splat

Nov 21, 2008 | 7:45 AM

Yes, driving a car is a problem. Take away the car. There is public transportation, bikes and friends if you really need to get to your job. There's no excuse for not being able to get to work with all the options out there.
Also, you can give them that altered i.d. but how many times are they going to be carded? I haven't had my i.d. asked for in years. The last time I did the guy did it because he said he had to, not because I looked underage. I would say 9 times out of 10 that altered i.d won't even be asked for.
Just last weekend there was a little car parked next to mine. It was pretty banged up, cracked windsheild, no side mirror, front plate all mangled. As I walked past I glanced in the car and saw the breathing apparatus in the car. Why not install those in their vehicles? The car won't start unless their breath comes out clean.
Make them pay huge fines, do jail time and mandatory rehab. If they're caught again there is no second chance. They're locked up for the rest of their lives. Period. No excuses.

scooterwilliams

Nov 21, 2008 | 8:22 AM

It doesn't matter if you are drinking or not. It is Arizona state law that you keep legal ID on you at all times. It is not enforced but should be

Splat, they do have to pay huge fines and jail time plus re-hab. The cost is not cheap.

It is cheaper to go for rehab than keep them in jail. Remember tax payers pay for the people in jail.

Whordawg

Nov 21, 2008 | 3:36 PM

AKS once again your WRONG. They already take there license's and to issue them an ID that doesnt let them by alcohal is stupid for just the thought of it, who is going to card someone that looks 40,50,60 yrs old. It would be impossable to do.

scooterwilliams

Nov 21, 2008 | 4:29 PM

Whoredawg, the point being is that you must have legal ID on you at all times. Az valid drivers license, Air Force picture ID and a regular ID you must get from Az Dept of Trans. The police dept. no longer issues what use to be a Police ID. All other ID's are not valid. I worked in a bar for 5 years. I will stand corrected if it has changed.

Also if you are asked to show ID when purchasing tobacco and alcohol you must do so age doesn't matter. They have the right to refuse you if you do not.

I remember years ago there was a bar named Diamond Lil's and Phyllis who was a little old lady stood at the door and ask you for ID. That was the law and if you didn't have it, she would not let you in.

So in short it is a good idea but not everyone is going to ask for ID. However be prepared if they do.

splat

Nov 21, 2008 | 5:54 PM

Scooter,

True, there is all that in place. Maybe we need to enforce they pay their own jail time and rehab too. Why should the taxpayers pay for their mistakes? Just like the $1.00 they supposedly added to our utility bill (who posted that?)
Just think of those innocent families paying taxes to cover the drunk that killed their family member. It's wrong!

Whordawg

Nov 21, 2008 | 6:20 PM

Scoot: your correct about the ask and produce law, that is true if you dont produce an ID when asked for one then by law they cannot sell you tobaco or alcohol no matter what your age. Most people dont understand that and that is why they argue, but to issue an ID that states your not allowed to buy it is just idiocy because as you stated not everyone will ask if you look old enough and I am not saying 30 or so I mean older.

scooterwilliams

Nov 21, 2008 | 6:21 PM

I agree that they should pay their own jail time for dwi and put it right along with the rehab.

For those who are in jail for a long term, perhaps family members should pay some of the load if they can afford to do so. More than likely not able to do so.

As it is those who pay taxes still have to pay for the jail birds any how.

aksjfd

Nov 22, 2008 | 7:20 PM

Why not just card everyone?

scooterwilliams

Nov 22, 2008 | 7:56 PM

I am 65 1/2 and I went to the circle k at 19 and campbell to purchase tobacco product for my roommate at that time who was late 30's.

The clerk asked me for my ID. I got very upset and said a couple of words. For some reason that person no longer worked there.

I have only been asked twice in my life to show ID after I was 18 and that was one of them.

When I was 17 I use to stay with friends in Canton Pa and would go to the bar with them and get served. I looked like I was 25 with a full growth beard.

You can card everyone if want to. There is also a book that can be signed to show proof of age with proper ID. Providing the stores and bar owners keep them on hand. Not a requirement but a good idea.

aksjfd

Nov 23, 2008 | 12:56 AM

Scooter---why would you flip out on someone for asking for your id?

scooterwilliams

Nov 23, 2008 | 9:38 AM

Why would anyone ask for ID when you are 65 1/2? I am and do look well over 21.

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Thanks you, America, for voting out the criminals and voting in the compassionate, socially and fiscally responsible Democrats. Keep up the good work and do the same in 2010. Be scared of the evangelicals; they are on the rise and are no different than Muslim extremists.

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