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by Biker-Terry from Missouri

Last Post 410 days, 15 hours Ago


   Every time I see a news report about the rising number of motorcycle deaths, and then hear a newscaster point out that the rider wasn’t wearing a helmet, or that the rider may have been saved if he/she was wearing one I want to SCREAM.

   It is sometimes reported what actually caused the accident in the first place, but most times not.

   It is never reported how long that person had been riding a motorcycle or how much experience the rider had.

  The media quotes motorcycle death rates have risen from, “X” number in 1996 to “X” number in 2006.

  But they never tell us that in 1996 there where “X” number of motorcycles registered and in 2006 there where “X” number registered.

  The media doesn’t tell us that in 1996 there where “X” number  of licensed motorcycle riders and in 2006 there where “X” number of licensed motorcycle riders.

 Where is the responsibility of the media to report the whole story. Tell us ALL the facts, not just the ones on the surface that are easy to find.

 It seems to me (and many experienced riders like me) that the media wants to control our lives by inciting the politicians and non-riders to mandate what we wear when we ride.

 Did you know that more people die from head injuries while NOT riding a motorcycle than those who do? Why not make it a law to have everybody wear a helmet at all times, sounds like a good idea doesn’t it?.

 

Being a safe motorcycle rider is more than just wearing a helmet or knowing how to get one going down the road, it’s all about experience. With gas prices rising and more people wanting to be “bikers” there are considerably more motorcycles on the road today, and I suspect there will be even more as time goes by.

 

I have an idea, how about when a person goes to get a motorcycle license for the first time (regardless of age) besides just having to have passed a motorcycle safety course, they are given a “learners license” that requires them to wear a helmet for the first three years, then when they renew their license at the end of that time period they will have the experience needed to help keep them safer on the road and then let them make a choice as to wear one or not.

If a rider with a "learners lisence" is caught with out a helmet, fine that person a huge sum and suspend thier privaledges.

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mnaines read my blog view my photos
Mar 27, 2008 | 7:53 PM

Not wearing a helmet is just like not wearing a seatbelt in a car...If its your choice not to wear one, fine. But the law says you have to, and the cops simply say "I'd rather have you be mad at me for writing you a ticket for not wearing your helmet/seatbelt than be pushing up daisies in a cemetary someplace"

mpvan read my blog
Mar 27, 2008 | 7:54 PM

Motorcycle riders are pretty much self correcting.
When they make a mistake like run off the road or run through a red light there's a high likelihood of death.

When they cause an accident the little bike usually doesn't do that much damage, other than to themselves.

One minor drawback is that when they're on the short end of a wreck, like it's not their fault, death usually results. And if they're unlucky, quad or bi paralysis.

Biker-Terry read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2008 | 6:27 AM

The fact is, if you are involved in any kind of accident while on a motorcycle even at speeds of 35 miles per hour, and your NOT an experienced rider your likely to die or be seriously injured with or without a helmet.

There’s no way to truly prove a helmet will save your life in an accident. Unlike seatbelts that have been proven with out a doubt to save the drivers life in most instances.
Rider education and experience is the only "proven" way to reduce the risk of serious injury or death. If you don't wreck, you don't die, and a helmet has nothing to do with it. That was the point I was trying to make.
I'd like to hear in news reports whether or not the motorcyclist was experienced or not, and whether the rider was the cause of the accident. I'd like to see what the stats have to say then.
The government probably already knows the answere to those questions. They know how many kids are killed in car crashes each year who drive with learners permits.

jpbikerfreak read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2008 | 10:31 AM

OOOohhhhhhhh man, don't GET ME STARTED.

Biker terry, this subject just p-s me off to no end. Like every other biker I know, I have always thought helmet laws suck.

And yes, I am so sick and tired of hearing stories like, "the crotch rocket rider was doing 160mph and hit a concrete wall head on. He was not wearing a helmet" WHO CARES?

And yes you are right, helmet probably cause more injuries than they prevent. but here come the "not on my insurance" arguments.

Well how about we get the obese off our insurance? They're costing much more than bikers. And scuba divers, sky divers, race car drivers, private plane pilots... the list goes on.

When was the last time any insurance company asked you if you ride a motorcycle w/o a helmet? NEVER have I been asked that. I HAVE been asked if I scuba dive, sky dive, am obese, am an alcoholic, and I smoke. But NEVER anything about a helmet. why is this?

Because THEY DON'T CARE. it's insignificant cost-wise.

Biker-Terry read my blog view my photos
Mar 28, 2008 | 3:02 PM

You know JP, I never thought about that. I've never been asked that question either.

And I've never had to use my insurance.

I wonder if, after 30 years of donating to the insurance funds if I can get a rebate check?

meCowPatty read my blog view my photos
Mar 29, 2008 | 2:15 PM

Great topic------------- Lots more people will be riding with the gas prices this year you can bet that. Wonderful ending Biker Terry and JP. I love it when a plan comes together. How do you like Traffic subject being closer to the top and not lost on the bottom?

trexp
Mar 30, 2008 | 10:28 PM

Most people don't ride motorcycles and they may not be aware the helmet is rather insignificant. It will help give you an open casket. What comes to mind the Most: we see the Crotch rocket riders passing us 100+ mph and poping wheelies all summer long.

Biker-Terry read my blog view my photos
Mar 31, 2008 | 11:01 AM

Thanks for the comments. See motorcycle deaths on the rise (part 2) for more info on this trend. Obviously, fox4 actually reads what we post. Thanks Fox4.

huntermania read my blog
Apr 3, 2008 | 9:43 AM

Click on my name and read my motorcycle helmet law blog.

Jordan read my blog
Apr 9, 2008 | 9:59 AM

Biker-Terry,

When was the last time the news media reported all the facts on anything? And you expect them to give the age and driving experience of those involved in a crash whether it is on a motorcycle or in a car? Most of the time they don’t know the name, age or sex of the person. How about their race, marital status, political affiliation, and income level? (Being a little sarcastic here.)

We really don’t know how many lives helmets save because there has never been a truly comprehensive and unbiased study done. The government’s involvement (DOT and National Transportation Administration) has concentrated their efforts on “safer crashes” instead of driver education designed to prevent crashes. That‘s true whether it be a motorcycle rider or the driver of a 4-wheel vehicle. I’d venture to say that 80% of the people on the road today that have been operating a motorized vehicle for more than 10-years couldn’t pass a driving test. I had a friend killed on his motorcycle last year who had been riding motorcycles for decades, was a former police officer, who operated his own accident investigation and reconstruction business and was one of the best motorcycle riders I’ve known and was wearing a helmet. The bottom line is that helmets, seatbelts, airbags and any other piece of safety equipment you can think of only work (sometimes) during a crash, they don’t prevent them. We need to be focusing far more effort on preventing them. Unfortunately, along with education comes traffic enforcement, which is arguably also part of the educational process. The more aware people

Jordan read my blog
Apr 9, 2008 | 10:01 AM

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are made of their bad driving habits, the more likely they are to correct them and the safer we will all be.

Biker-Terry read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2008 | 2:32 PM

Thanks for repeating what I've already said Jordan.

It appears that you too have some experience with the death of a close friend dieing in a motorcycle crash. What caused the accident?

Actualy, if you think about it, every time the news reports that a Juvinile is involved in an accident, they report it as such, and if they were driving on a learners permit, they also report it.

You are very correct in that education is the answere to alot of the problems out on the road today, for instance I wish I had a dime for every IDIOT I've seen who did not use their turn signals CORRECTLY. Or all those other idiots who don't turn on their lights when its raining. Or......... You get my drift.

Peace.

Jordan read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 3:22 PM

My friend was killed when an elderly man suffering from dementia driving a pickup pulled out in front of him and another vehicle and is a state of confusion stopped in the middle of the road. My friend, an excellent rider, did everything he could to avoid the collision. He swerved to the right and tried to go behind the pickup and almost made it, but a trailer hitch on the truck caught his bike. Life sometimes comes down to a matter of inches.

Biker-Terry read my blog view my photos
Apr 23, 2008 | 1:13 PM

Sorry to hear about your friend Jordan.

Perhaps if the elderly man wasn't allowed to drive in the first place because of mental health issues, your friend would still be alive.

Peace.

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Biker-Terry

US Citizen by Birth, Biker by Choice, and U.S. Army VET(77-82). I've been riding motorcycles for over 35 years. I Currently own and ride a 1999 HD Springer. I am the Father of three fine young adults, Two are in College, One is in Iraq for his second tour. He joined at 17 just like I did of his own free will. IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS . . . . PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !! You may disagree with what I say and that is fine, but I won't argue with you, period. I will attempt to provide info to prove my point if I make a statement, and I'll expect the same if you want to debate an issue. I reserve the right to delete any post to my blog that goes off topic. If you want to go off on a tangent other than what I have proffered, do it on your own blog. biker.terry@yahoo.com Peace.

Member Since: 3/27/2008